Tuesday, 22 April 2014

Was Star Wars based on Jack Kirby’s Fourth World?



There are, it has to be said, some striking similarities between the two. New Gods #1 was published in 1971, Star Wars came out 6 years and 3 months later in 1977. Here’s a  few facts – 

The FOURTH WORLD is a space opera, a Greek tragedy played out among the stars with epic scope, an overshadowing war caused by previous events, complicated families & lots of zooming around in space.
STAR WARS is a completely different space opera, a Greek tragedy played out among the stars with epic scope, an overshadowing war caused by previous events, complicated families & lots of zooming around in space.

The FOURTH  WORLD has “The Source” a mysterious almost religious energy. Characters use the Source to draw power from.
STAR WARS has the completely different “The Force” a mysterious almost religious energy. Characters “Use the Force” to draw power.

The FOURTH WORLD has a  hero, Orion, who is accompanied by a happy-go-lucky, reckless companion called Lightray and trained by Highfather, an old man with incredible powers.
STAR WARS  has a completely different hero, Luke, who is accompanied by a happy-go-lucky, reckless companion called Han Solo and trained by Obi-Wan Kenobi, an old man with incredible powers.

Darkseid and Darth Vader - separated at birth?

FOURTH WORLD’s main villain is Darkseid (pronounced Dark Side) whose real son was brought up by one of the good guys.
STAR WARS main villain is the completely different Darth Vader (who uses the Dark Side) whose real son was brought up by one of the good guys.

Apokolips and the Death Star - separated at birth?


The FOURTH WORLD has Apokolips, an incredibly oppressive planet-sized regime watched over by hordes of masked soldiers. Basically it looks like a planetoid with big circles on the surface.
STAR WARS has the completely different Death Star, an incredibly oppressive planet-sized regime watched over by hordes of masked soldiers. Basically it looks like a completely different planetoid with completely different big circles on the surface.

The FOURTH WORLD has “Mother Box” an electronic device that communicates by making “ping ping” noises.
STAR WARS has the completely different R2-D2 a robot that communicates by making ping ping, beep & whistle noises.

Jack Kirby’s the FOURTH WORLD has great character names like Mark Moonrider,
STAR WARS has completely different great character names like…. Luke Skywalker.

I could go on. Was Star Wars based on Jack Kirby’s Fourth World

Kirby says - Don’t ask! Decide for yourself! May the Source be with you.

For more info, see a video of me talking about this at a BettaKultcha event.


....and to the person who commented saying Orion looks nothing like Luke, you were looking at a drawing of him with his helmet on. Here's Orion without his helmet next to a photo of Luke, you decide....


10 comments:

  1. You incorrectly state that Lightray was trained by Obi-Wan-Knobi. Everybody knows he was trained by the Submariner.

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  2. Wow. Had no idea so much of Star Wars was ripped off Jack Kirby.....

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  3. "Jack Kirby, you ARE my father" There's a great meme of this if you can find it. It was clear from the get go Luca copped The New Gods...the one (and biggest) "influence" Lucas never admitted to. That sucks. ~SGS

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  4. Yeah, love the analysis. Stormtroopers and Parademons. Lousy shooters...

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  5. The cover shown was photoshopped just a bit... http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/New%20Gods%201.JPG

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  6. I always thought that Darth Vader's appearance owed a lot to Doctor Doom, which makes it even more annoying that Hollywood can't properly portray Doctor Doom without altering him into something unrecognizable.

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  7. Yeah but on that cover, the character is Orion, he was based on a dog, he looks NOTHING like Luke Skywalker.

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  8. Loved this! So fascinating.

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